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Re: [tise-devel] extended vowel rules

A few minor remarks & questions:

1/ The message "Tise started Running in EWTS mode" does not disappear when I press CapsLock or Shift+Space

2/ Tibetan parentheses (0F3C, 0F3D) cannot be typed with the standard parentheses keys, neither under Kbd_US nor under Kbd_DE.

3/ How about a warning pop-up message if an "illegal" key is typed after a functional key such as hyphen?

4/ How would one input 0FBA, 0FBB, 0FBC (if at all)?

5/ There are still several "noisy" keys that produce unwanted output from the underlying TiseEWTS keyboard. By design, Kbd_DE when associated with Tise has more such keys than Kbd_US, and a few of them are critical (as mentioned in my previous mail). It would be a great relief if this "noise" could be turned off and replaced with NUL output.


-----Original Message-----
From: tise-devel-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tise-devel-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gregory Mokhin
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 19:06
To: tise-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Christopher Walker; Daniel Muller
Subject: Re: [tise-devel] extended vowel rules

Here is v. 1.97 ( at http://byak.sinp.msu.ru/tise/ ):


- I is handled same as A, O, U, E,
- retroflex i and I are typed as -i and -I
- tise.ini is gone - Tise now works with Windows registry
  (HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Tise). That reduced the size twice -
  tise.exe is only 56 KB now, and tiseuni.dll is 46 KB.
- important: layouts different from EN_US are supported

Readme is updated:

4) (Optional) Choose non-English layout if you have a keyboard that
has different layout from US English.

Tise requires at least two keyboard layouts for its operation. Skip
this step if you have only two layouts, one of them being TiseEWTS.
Starting with version 1.97 multiple keyboard layouts are supported.
If you use more than two layouts, including TiseEWTS, it is possible
to choose a layout of your preference in Tise settings dialog.
Right-click "Kailash" tray icon and choose Settings from the drop-down
menu. In the first combo box TiseEWTS layout is shown. Don't change
this. In the second combo box choose one of the available layouts that
matches best your keyboard. Currently layouts other than US English
have not been tested extensively and may have some glitches.

For sure there will be bugs with non-US layouts (I don't have all
keyboards to test with, Peter please help with testing at least for

Even so I think David it is time to give Tise to wider audience, maybe
with a warning that it has not been tested with non-US keyboards. Is
readme and info at http://byak.sinp.msu.ru/tise/ enough or would you
like anything else from me?


Christopher Walker wrote:
> to bring your implementation closer to spec concerning the extended
> vowel rules (i.e.
> http://iris.lib.virginia.edu/tibet/collections/langling/ewts/ewts.php?m=SII)
> , you can experiment with WylieWord 2.0, Babelpad's internal Tibetan
> EWTS keyboard, or my EWTS Keyman.  I imagine THDL's Quilldriver also
> implements this.
> using consonant g, the following pattern should help clarify:
> gI =ààà U+0F42 U+0F71 U+0F72
> grI =àààà U+0F42 U+0FB2 U+0F71 U+0F72
> gr-i =ààà U+0F42 U+0FB2 U+0F80
> gr-I =àààà U+0F42 U+0FB2 U+0F71 U+0F80
> gl-I =àààà U+0F42 U+0FB3 U+0F71 U+0F80
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