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Hi, Peter!

Thank you for your help. I received your answer only yesterday with
the digest. I think there might be some problem with this list. Mail
delivery is enabled in my settings, but I didn't receive any until
now.
As a matter of fact, I've been setting the keyboard map in Windows to
USA International when I use TISE. It's easier for me because it's a
layout that I already know.

Kind regards,

Walter

> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 20:30:50 +0200
> From: "Linguasoft" <linguasoft@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [tise-devel] Testing TISE with ABNT keyboard layout
> To: "'Development of Tise'" <tise-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <20050808183053.0BA4CA6188@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Dear Walter,
> 
> Comparing with the US keyboard or other "simple" European or Asian
> keyboards, the Brazilian ABNT keyboard has an additional 102nd key (on which
> the slash symbol is located); the scan code for this additional key has
> apparently not been implemented in TISE.
> 
> Until Grisha can fix this problem, maybe you can try the European Portuguese
> keyboard, as a substitute? Under this keyboard, TISE has been tested by me
> and works fine.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Peter E. Hauer
> Linguasoft
> Vienna, Austria
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tise-devel-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:tise-devel-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of walter cirillo
> Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 19:46
> To: tise-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tise-devel] Testing TISE with ABNT keyboard layout
> 
> Hi, Gregory!
> Congratulations for your work!
> I'm testing Tise in a PC running Windows XP SP2 with a Portuguese
> (Brazilian ABNT) keyboard layout and OpenOffice 1.1.4. I've updated
> usp10.dll to the 1.473 version and I'm using Tibetan Machine Uni, TCRC
> Youtso Unicode and the fonts of the Bhutanese Department of
> Information Technology.
> 
> There seem to be a bug when typing the tibetan shad. When I type the
> forward slash (/) to get the shad, it returns only the slash.
> 
> You can see the ABNT keyboard layout at:
> 
> http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/keyboards/kbdbr.htm
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Walter
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> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2005 17:02:05 -0400
> From: Gregory Mokhin <mokhin@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [tise-devel] Testing TISE with ABNT keyboard layout
> To: Development of Tise <tise-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <42F7C84D.4040906@xxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Hi Walter,
> 
> It is an annoying bug, indeed. Before I look into how to solve this
> may I ask you, just to make sure, whether you enabled ABNT layout in
> Tise settings? Getting forward slash instead of a shad means that the
> windows keyboard driver doesn't recognize it as a normal keycode for a
> slash but as some injected keycode... What does pressing AltGr+q
> yields? From the MS layout scheme I see it is mapped to '/'.
> 
> It will be a little bit difficult for me to debug it without having a
> physical ABNT keyboard at hand, but I can enable debug mode in Tise
> and with your and Peter's help we will sort that out.
> 
> Regards,
> Gregory
> 
> walter cirillo wrote:
> > Hi, Gregory!
> > Congratulations for your work!
> > I'm testing Tise in a PC running Windows XP SP2 with a Portuguese
> > (Brazilian ABNT) keyboard layout and OpenOffice 1.1.4. I've updated
> > usp10.dll to the 1.473 version and I'm using Tibetan Machine Uni, TCRC
> > Youtso Unicode and the fonts of the Bhutanese Department of
> > Information Technology.
> >
> > There seem to be a bug when typing the tibetan shad. When I type the
> > forward slash (/) to get the shad, it returns only the slash.
> >
> > You can see the ABNT keyboard layout at:
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/keyboards/kbdbr.htm
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Walter
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:32:50 +0200
> From: "Linguasoft" <linguasoft@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [tise-devel] Testing TISE with Pop-Up Dictionary shell
> To: "'Development of Tise'" <tise-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <20050823133253.5C3C4A6222@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Dear Grisha,
> 
> I've reported a problem (TISE does not allow entering Tibetan in the search
> window or other fields of Pop-Up Dictionary, www.popdict.com) to the
> developer of this dictionary shell, Artyom Lukanin, and asked him to be in
> touch with you in order to solve this issue.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Peter E. Hauer
> Linguasoft
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 15:35:15 +0200
> From: "Linguasoft" <linguasoft@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [tise-devel] Extending TISE to input of Sanskrit (Devanagari
>        &       Romanized)?
> To: "'Development of Tise'" <tise-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <20050823133518.CD95CA6230@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> Dear Grisha,
> 
> 
> 
> Just a question, and at the same time an "opinion poll" directed at other
> list members:
> 
> 
> 
> Do you think it would make sense to extend TISE to support also input of
> Sanskrit in Devanagari script or Latin transliteration?
> 
> 
> 
> The problem with Sanskrit is basically the same as with Tibetan Unicode:
> prospective users of Keyman keyboards that have been available for free so
> far, are now required to purchase a license for Keyman.
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Peter E. Hauer
> 
> Linguasoft
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US =
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> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:21:21 -0400
> From: Gregory Mokhin <mokhin@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [tise-devel] Testing TISE with Pop-Up Dictionary shell
> To: Development of Tise <tise-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <430E6081.9090704@xxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Sorry Peter, nowadays being busy with my main job I'm somewhat slow in
> replies. I can imagine that Tise will not work in widgets based on older
> versions of MFC (that don't understand Unicode keyboard input). As a
> side note,  it seems that Microsoft (half)-silently abandoned MFC in
> favor of newer technologies. No news from Artyom yet.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Gregory
> 
> Linguasoft wrote:
> >
> > I've reported a problem (TISE does not allow entering Tibetan in the search
> > window or other fields of Pop-Up Dictionary, www.popdict.com) to the
> > developer of this dictionary shell, Artyom Lukanin, and asked him to be in
> > touch with you in order to solve this issue.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Peter E. Hauer
> > Linguasoft
> >
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:28:39 -0400
> From: Gregory Mokhin <mokhin@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [tise-devel] Extending TISE to input of Sanskrit
>        (Devanagari &   Romanized)?
> To: Development of Tise <tise-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <430E6237.4090409@xxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> By design Tise is able to transform any combinations of key strokes into
> any Unicode sequences - so it is possible to support various input
> schemes for any language that is covered by Unicode.
> 
> It is just a question of having enough time (and enough motivation),
> rather than a technical one.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Gregory
> 
> Linguasoft wrote:
> >
> > Just a question, and at the same time an "opinion poll" directed at
> > other list members:
> >
> > Do you think it would make sense to extend TISE to support also input of
> > Sanskrit in Devanagari script or Latin transliteration?
> >
> > The problem with Sanskrit is basically the same as with Tibetan Unicode:
> > prospective users of Keyman keyboards that have been available for free
> > so far, are now required to purchase a license for Keyman.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Peter E. Hauer
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:01:53 +0200
> From: "Linguasoft" <linguasoft@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [tise-devel] Testing TISE with Pop-Up Dictionary shell
> To: "'Development of Tise'" <tise-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <20050826120158.6EBCDA6046@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Dear Grisha,
> 
> The problem is that apps like Pop-Up Dictionary must always be concerned
> about compatibility with older OS'es.
> 
> Artyom's original message to you must have gone astray, but he sent you
> another message today and CC'ed me. I still hope that you can "come to
> terms" somehow...
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tise-devel-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:tise-devel-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gregory Mokhin
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 02:21
> To: Development of Tise
> Subject: Re: [tise-devel] Testing TISE with Pop-Up Dictionary shell
> 
> Sorry Peter, nowadays being busy with my main job I'm somewhat slow in
> replies. I can imagine that Tise will not work in widgets based on older
> versions of MFC (that don't understand Unicode keyboard input). As a
> side note,  it seems that Microsoft (half)-silently abandoned MFC in
> favor of newer technologies. No news from Artyom yet.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Gregory
> 
> 
> 
> 
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